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* Time: Friday 29 May 09 17:00 - 19:00 CET
* Time: Friday 29 May 09 17:00 - 19:00 CET
* Location: Utrecht, Trechter and via skype conference call
* Location: Utrecht, Trechter and via skype conference call
Attendees:  
Attendees:  
* the usual crowd invited, plus a few who expressed interested since the last meeting
* R, Ma, Mi, P (skype) <please add your own name, if you want, please don't add (i.e., publish) complete names of others>
* O&C&Olga can't join, sends regards  
* O&C&Olga can't join, sends regards  


=== Agenda ===
=== Minutes ===
* Perspectives and insights since last meeting
* Perspectives and insights since last meeting
* Activities: what has been done? What was learned from it? Should it be continued? What else do we want to do?
* Activities: what has been done? What was learned from it? Should it be continued? What else do we want to do?
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** The [http://www.clubofamsterdam.com/ Club of Amsterdam]
** The [http://www.clubofamsterdam.com/ Club of Amsterdam]
** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YtleP98bRw Video]
** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YtleP98bRw Video]
** Contacted [http://www.digitalepioniers.nl/ Digital Pioneers]. Apply in round 17 in the summer?
** Contacted [http://www.digitalepioniers.nl/ Digital Pioneers]. Apply for round 17 in the summer!
** Started a project on [http://www.voordewereldvanmorgen.nl/site/project/392 Voordewereldvanmorgen.nl]. What to do now?
** Started a project on [http://www.voordewereldvanmorgen.nl/site/project/392 Voordewereldvanmorgen.nl]. Not much happening. Wait and see.
** Twitter [http://twitter.com/MGenerations @MGenerations]. Experiences? Continue?
** Twitter [http://twitter.com/MGenerations @MGenerations]. New insights, share concepts. Later share changes on site, possibly automatic (separate account). Continue!
** Opened an account on [http://www.missionzero.org Mission Zero]. Continue?
** Opened an account on [http://www.missionzero.org Mission Zero]. Not much seems to be happening. Wait and see.
** Idea (C&M) to ask students (at schools) to interview people (e.g., senior citizens) with questions around milliongenerations. E.g., "What would be different if you lived a million years?" and post their results.
** Concept to ask students (at schools) to interview people (e.g., senior citizens) with questions around milliongenerations to be developed. Intergenerational dialogue would add value. Exercise will bring about questions with what question to start, try a few things / leave it open to students. Could also include things like "how would you act if you lived for a million years" or "imagine receiving a call from someone living in a million generations" as well as the [[questions|questions already posted on this site]]. Preference to stick to something that conveys the change of perspective in the [[assumption]], but no dogma. Hope that robust interview questions will emerge.
** ...  
 
* Content  
* Content/Substance
** Focus on the really long term!
** Focus on the really long term! Develop [[Milliongenerations_talk:Foundation|core principles/values of milliongenerations]] further!
** Concepts for [[resilient|resilience]] (beyond control) and [[sustainable|sustainability]] (within control)
** Competition is derived from striving together
** Concepts for [[resilient|resilience]] (beyond control) and [[sustainable|sustainability]] (within control). Often people don't seem prepared to do the mental work to understand concepts.
** [[Actions to be taken to achieve a sustainable civilization |Hungry man and Fish]]
** [[Actions to be taken to achieve a sustainable civilization |Hungry man and Fish]]
** As an organization, let's not get (too?) involved with [[Actions to be taken to achieve a sustainable civilization | actions on here and now]]. There are plenty of [[Related topics | others]] who do that.
** As an organization, let's not get much involved with [[Actions to be taken to achieve a sustainable civilization | actions on here and now]]. There are plenty of [[Related topics | others]] who do that. Clarification of concepts is needed.
** Relevant changes on site  
 
* Concepts
* Plans for milliongenerations in one year
** Environment to implement the million (clicks) for a million (generations) [[competition]]
** Some student interviews on the site, learned from it
** Environment to implement something in the direction of the million (clicks) for a million (generations) [[competition]]
** Passing of the [[milliongenerations:foundation]] to the winners of the [[competition]]
** Passing of the [[milliongenerations:foundation]] to the winners of the [[competition]]
** ...
** Such an environment should preferably be available for other questions (open/copyleft!)
** Better website, clearer, better structure, more inviting to contributions
** Succeeded in obtaining financing (digital pioneers?) and attract volunteers to achieve the above
 
* Steps to formalizing the foundation
* Steps to formalizing the foundation
** Changes to the [[Milliongenerations:Charter of the Foundation|charter]]
** Changes to the [[Milliongenerations:Charter of the Foundation|charter]]
** - Limit 25 years!
** Try limit to 25 years if notary/tax authorities allows. Idea is that if the organization has not achieved an environment that produced meaningful concepts in this time, it is unlikely that it will succeed afterwards and it probably will be too late to implement such concepts. Limiting the lifespan of the organization is meant to underscore the urgency of the problem and avoid setting up an organization that exists or even grows just to keep itself alive.
** - Objective?
** Objective in 2.0 of the [[[Milliongenerations:Charter of the Foundation|charter]] is not bad, P suggested we could add something in the direction of "to do something people in the future will be thankful for".
**  
* Actions, please complete by 30 June 2009
* Actions: who does what when?
** Ma: explore [[Interview project]], and share it on this site. If you like it: go for it
** Mi: contact friend teaching at similar school, maybe other students want to get involved
** All: review [[Milliongenerations_talk:Foundation|core principles/values of milliongenerations]]
** P: add definition to [[Milliongenerations:Competition|competition]]
** Mi: start foundation formally, so subsidies can be applied for and donations can be received, so that the environment of the site can be improved
** R: keep an eye on next round of [http://www.digitalepioniers.nl/ Digital Pioneers].
 
=== Next meeting ===
[[Milliongenerations:Meeting 31 Jul 09|31 Jul 2009 17:00 CET / 8am PST (summer time)]]

Revision as of 18:46, 29 May 2009

Meeting on actions of milliongenerations.org

  • Time: Friday 29 May 09 17:00 - 19:00 CET
  • Location: Utrecht, Trechter and via skype conference call

Attendees:

  • R, Ma, Mi, P (skype) <please add your own name, if you want, please don't add (i.e., publish) complete names of others>
  • O&C&Olga can't join, sends regards

Minutes

  • Perspectives and insights since last meeting
  • Activities: what has been done? What was learned from it? Should it be continued? What else do we want to do?
    • Dutch version homepage, other languages?
    • The Club of Amsterdam
    • Video
    • Contacted Digital Pioneers. Apply for round 17 in the summer!
    • Started a project on Voordewereldvanmorgen.nl. Not much happening. Wait and see.
    • Twitter @MGenerations. New insights, share concepts. Later share changes on site, possibly automatic (separate account). Continue!
    • Opened an account on Mission Zero. Not much seems to be happening. Wait and see.
    • Concept to ask students (at schools) to interview people (e.g., senior citizens) with questions around milliongenerations to be developed. Intergenerational dialogue would add value. Exercise will bring about questions with what question to start, try a few things / leave it open to students. Could also include things like "how would you act if you lived for a million years" or "imagine receiving a call from someone living in a million generations" as well as the questions already posted on this site. Preference to stick to something that conveys the change of perspective in the assumption, but no dogma. Hope that robust interview questions will emerge.
  • Plans for milliongenerations in one year
    • Some student interviews on the site, learned from it
    • Environment to implement something in the direction of the million (clicks) for a million (generations) competition
    • Passing of the milliongenerations:foundation to the winners of the competition
    • Such an environment should preferably be available for other questions (open/copyleft!)
    • Better website, clearer, better structure, more inviting to contributions
    • Succeeded in obtaining financing (digital pioneers?) and attract volunteers to achieve the above
  • Steps to formalizing the foundation
    • Changes to the charter
    • Try limit to 25 years if notary/tax authorities allows. Idea is that if the organization has not achieved an environment that produced meaningful concepts in this time, it is unlikely that it will succeed afterwards and it probably will be too late to implement such concepts. Limiting the lifespan of the organization is meant to underscore the urgency of the problem and avoid setting up an organization that exists or even grows just to keep itself alive.
    • Objective in 2.0 of the [[[Milliongenerations:Charter of the Foundation|charter]] is not bad, P suggested we could add something in the direction of "to do something people in the future will be thankful for".
  • Actions, please complete by 30 June 2009
    • Ma: explore Interview project, and share it on this site. If you like it: go for it
    • Mi: contact friend teaching at similar school, maybe other students want to get involved
    • All: review core principles/values of milliongenerations
    • P: add definition to competition
    • Mi: start foundation formally, so subsidies can be applied for and donations can be received, so that the environment of the site can be improved
    • R: keep an eye on next round of Digital Pioneers.

Next meeting

31 Jul 2009 17:00 CET / 8am PST (summer time)